The False Prophecy, Visions, Dreams, and Curses of Dave Ruffino of Delusion Resistance – Part 1
The False Prophecy, Visions, Dreams, and Curses of Dave Ruffino of Delusion Resistance
Part 1: False Visions and False Prophecy
On his website DelusionResistance.org Dave relates:
“Both Jim Wilhelmsen from Echoes of Enoch and myself had postulated that the Book of Life that is mentioned in The Revelation might be the Bible that we hold in our hands… The thought that it might be the actual Book of Life has fascinated me, but not to the point of obsession or to make it my life’s goal to prove…
I was sitting at work during my morning break when all of a sudden I saw a Bible before me. It was about six feet off of the ground and just hovering there. As I looked the Bible opened about half way and it tilted so that the left corner tilted down while the right corner tilted up and then I could see it in three dimensions. When the Bible was finished tilting I could see the letters and they were in Hebrew. All of a sudden the pages became clear and below each letter I could see a multitude of letters all stacked below each letter and they went on for what looked like infinity. I realized that I was seeing a four dimensional Bible and I started to wonder what the letters in the columns to infinity meant. It was then that the Ruach impressed on me that the letters in the columns contained names, each column had names that no one could number. The Ruach told me that since the Bible has at least four dimensions it could contain the name of every person that has ever come to Elohim through Yahweh Yeshua, and all of the saints that lived before the flood and after the flood and before Yeshua came to earth to establish His covenant with mankind. This is why Yahweh is so adamant about our treating His Word reverently.” http://www.
The first thing to note is that this is a Vision: it is vivid, seen with the eyes, seems to overlay objective reality, and had a high level of seeming-physicality to it. (I have written extensively on Visions being caused by Holy angels in the gift of prophecy, and False Visions being caused by fallen angels in false prophecy, on my website here: http://paradoxbrown.com/
Next, while the Bible does not specifically state that “the Word of God is not the Book of Life”, I do think the Bible says enough to show this teaching of Dave’s, this vision, is false. The Bible mentions the Book of life several times, but perhaps the most revealing case is in the book of Revelation:
“And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.” Rev 20:12
Here the book of life is mentioned. And a few verses prior the Bible itself is mentioned and called “the word of God” in Rev 20:4 “the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God”.
Sometimes the terms ‘The Word of God’ or “The Word” reference to Jesus Christ. But it is obvious in Rev 20:4 that the “the witness of Jesus” references to Jesus, and so “the Word of God” is referencing to the Holy Scriptures. As such in Revelation the “Book of Life” is referred to as a distinctly separate book than the Bible, “The Word of God”.
Revelation by John is not the only book that shows this difference between the Bible and the Book of Life. Paul mentions the “Book of Life” in Phil 4:3, but Paul calls the Bible, the Holy Scriptures, the “Word of God” many times in the New Testament, showing he is referring to them as two different things. (2 Cor 4:2, Col 1:25, Eph 6:17, Heb 4:12) http://www.
In the Old Testament, the Book of Life is also referred to in Ex 32:32-33: “Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin–; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written. And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.”
From this we can see that God Himself has written the Book of Life, and can blot names out of His Book of Life. The Old Testament itself was written through men, and is referred to as “God’s Word”, composed of the “Law” and “the Prophets”, throughout the Bible. It seems clear that the “Book of Life” and “The Word of God” are referred to in the Bible as being two distinctly different books.
As to the fruit of the teaching that the Bible and the Book of Life are the same, note:
“And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” Rev 20:15
As ridiculous as it may sound, there are a lot of people out there prone to ridiculous false beliefs. Someone could get the wrong idea from this teaching that they are saved because they see their name (Mary, Peter, Paul, etc.) in the Bible, and on the flip side, people who might think they are not saved because they don’t see their name in the Bible. Many people do believe things just as strange, based on the false teaching of a vision like this, which Dave accepted as from God, but I think clearly contradicts Biblical teaching on the subject, therefore showing it to be a False Vision.
The third point I would like to make may go over some people’s heads, but is still a glaring flaw to me in this False Vision, in regards to science. Time is the 4th dimension, and any Bible that you hold in your hand is a “4 dimensional Bible” because it is passing through time. What would be required for Dave’s vision to make sense (no matter how you slice it) is a “5 dimensional” Bible, not a “4 dimensional” Bible. And so I see something wrong when Dave says, “The Ruach told me that since the Bible has at least four dimensions it could contain the name of every person…” because a correct explanation according to physics and science would require a 5 dimensional Bible, having an extra spatial dimension (in science terminology) which would total 5 dimensions (3 spatial + 1 Time + another spatial) and not just a 4 dimensional Bible (3 spatial + 1 Time), which is what we already have. The Holy Spirit of Truth has not yet been shown to have gotten a science-related insight wrong, but this would be a glaring error.
So I see a lack of testing of the spirits involved here. Contradicting the Bible, this powerful supernatural experience was a False Vision, and as such was caused by a fallen angel. Dave had a False Vision which contradicted Biblical teaching, and did not test it against the Bible, and thought it was from God. That is concerning to me.
It is interesting to note that this idea that the Bible and the Book of Life might be the same book, is an idea Dave apparently had with influence from Jim Wilhelmsen.
Dave says, “I believe in my heart that the vision was an answer to a question that another brother and I had posed to Yahweh. Both Jim Wilhelmsen from Echoes of Enoch and myself had postulated that the Book of Life that is mentioned in The Revelation might be the Bible that we hold in our hands.”
This vision seems to have been caused by a fallen angel, perhaps even a fallen angel specifically answering or confirming their unbiblical speculation. I have also written on the Heresies of Jim Wilhelmsen, that he contradicts essential doctrines of Christianity on his website, basing his teachings on dreams he states he believes were from God. That would be things like the Serpent Seed Heresy, that Cain’s descendents survived the flood hiding in a hollow earth, salvation through jewish bloodlines and ‘gentiles’ in the NT really being jews, that God split into the 3 persons of the Trinity after the fall of Adam and Eve into sin, a bloodless Adam and Eve and bloodless post-resurrection Jesus, and that Jesus’ blood came from a parallel universe, and more. http://
Dave and Jim seem to be open to any supernatural experience – regardless of the source – and without regard to testing the spirits against the Word of God for Biblical and doctrinal confirmation of their experience, so as to confirm it came from God. And it concerns me that there are Christian Ufologists with these kinds of things happening to them. It concerns me that there are Christian Ufologists that are producing or promoting false and unbiblical teachings, and also that these false teachings are based off of dreams and visions, which they attribute to God. But I do not believe that these are from God, for they contradict the Bible and sound Biblical teaching and doctrine, even essential doctrines of Christianity.
Dave has other powerful sounding visions on his website, which like each and every supernatural experience that MUST be tested against the Word of God, are suspect to be False Visions as well. Surveying them, my opinion is that some of them which concern minor and major future events, but without any tie to or precedent in scripture, thus falling into a gray area, are likely false. But there is a series of visions I would like to point out, 3 in particular, not of future events, but the present, which occurred over a 7 month period while Dave was at church.
“…All of a sudden it was as if I was in the center of the room standing and I could see all four corners of the room at the same time. At each corner of the room I saw what looked like a man with wings praising Yahweh in the same manner I was, on the knees with the face to the floor. After a short time the wings were no longer on the men but they remained in the same position, dressed in unimpressive clothes, sort of like in monk’s robes with hoods, but the clothes were plain, almost faded in color. I asked Yahweh why the wings were no longer there and why the men were now in plain old clothes. He told me that the wings at the beginning were to let me know that these beings were angels. They were dressed in plain clothing to illustrate that the angels servants of Yahweh like ourselves. Well, I got up and sat in my chair, praying in the Spirit with a great fervency…I didn’t sit for long because I felt the need to get down on my knees again, which I did. At this time I was again in the room, able to see all of the room at the same time. With this, I saw the back door to the room, the entrance where everyone comes in and departs. I saw two or three other angels come into the room and then many more started to enter until the room was filled with angels and those of us humans who were there. The room had so many angels that if they had been manifest in the flesh there would not have been any room to move around the room. As we lifted out hands in praise and adoration of Yeshua the angels did also. Everything we did they did. As we smiled in our worship they smiled and worshipped…” http://www.
The first thing to note is that the angels had wings, which then disappeared – and this was tailored to Dave’s understanding. It is a biblical fact that angels which look like men do not have wings – no one in the Bible ever had God show them wings on this type of angel to first help them know it was an angel. Usually angels are known to be angels in the Bible in relation to their shining or glowing, or they simply look like men. There are some real logistical problems here with “Yahweh” telling Dave that “the wings at the beginning were to let me know that these beings were angels”. Keeping with the Bible, what Dave was shown could have easily been altered so as to not contradict Biblical precedents of interactions with Holy angels. Dave could have first seen men without wings who were shining or glowing – and then second seen them in street clothes or robes. That would have made the same point that angels are “servants like ourselves”, without the DECEPTIVE and Biblically unprecedented wings Dave saw on these angels. The second logistical problem is that “Yahweh” was able to communicate with Dave throughout this experience – so very easily “Yahweh” could have just told Dave these men in robes were angels, again, no wings required.
Based on what Dave described, as best as I can figure, this experience was much like is described in “remote viewing” which is an occultic practice. I’d had a few experiences like that before, back in high school when I was not Christian. I remember one where I saw a vase sitting on a stand, it was very vividly 3D so as to almost seem like my eyes were open and I was looking at it. But I still perceived myself to be sitting on my bed at the time. I have had this happen a couple times since becoming Christian, usually when falling asleep seeing nightmarish images, and I have since learned when such experiences start to occur, that I should rebuke them in the name and authority of Jesus Christ. Note that Dave does not do that here, or otherwise attempt to test the spirits to make sure this is from God. No testing is mentioned whatsoever, not while the experience is ongoing, and not afterwards in testing the experience against what the Bible teaches.
Dave was on the floor praying when this started, likely with his eyes shut, and then he seems to have seen all this ‘behind his eyelids’, so to speak, in vivid detail, while still perceiving himself to be on the floor. It stopped, and he then got up off the floor to his chair, then down again, and then it happened a second time, and so this experience happened twice in the same service. Usually Visions with Holy angels in the Holy Bible involve a greater level of seeming-physicality to them – ie Dave would have no longer felt he was on the floor, and I think he probably would have mentioned in this account that he perceived his entire body to have moved to the center of the room. (This is the level of physicality perceived in many False Visions today, of alien abduction, ghosts, bigfoot, etc.) Perhaps I have noted this wrongly, but it seems to me more likely this was more a case of imagery seen in the mind in a trance-like state while Dave still perceived himself to be on the floor. This does qualify as being a type of “vision”, happening while awake and in a trance-ish state, but it’s a less powerful one, more on the waking “dream” end of the spectrum, to see this “as if” he was in the center of the room, visually in the mind with his eyes closed, while in fact still perceiving his body on the floor in the room. This is in contrast to the ‘Book of Life’ False Vision previously covered, which seems to have been a more powerful (False) Vision experience, involving actually seeing with his eyes open, a Bible floating in front of him, with the image of this seemingly-physical Bible overlaid onto his waking perceptions of objective reality. That more powerful experience occurred 22 months later, in 08/08, and so these ones with the angels came prior, building up to that one. Let’s look at the next 2 experiences Dave had, together:
“…As I prayed Yahweh brought me out of the building to a position where I was just higher than the second story of the structure, looking down at it. I noticed that some angels had descended upon the building, one on each corner of the building, on the roof of the lower part of the building. They were dressed in a robes, not fancy robes, but rather drab robes, of a dark tan or perhaps a dark green, approaching a brown. They all had staffs. Then I saw other angels, all dressed the same. There were some in front of the windows and all of the doors; two per window and two per door. Then other angels came and stood at the four corners of the second story roof. The angels all stood there facing out like a military sentries. At one point, they all threw their staffs to their sides and removed their robes. They all wore white garments underneath, sort of like Roman regalia, but pure white. Each one had what looked like a Roman Gladius sword in their belts. They all drew their swords at the same time and when they did, what I can only describe as hideous looking creatures materialized in the air. The angels fought them and won. The demonic creatures dematerialized and were gone. I became lucid for a short time and noticed that the worship had turned around and that it sounded unencumbered and alive with the Ruach Ha Kodesh…” http://www.yirmayahu.info/
“…I continued to pray in the Spirit and immediately I was outside the church. I remember saying, uh oh, here we go again. But the mood that I felt was different, not as intense as the last time but in full expectation that something was going on in the spiritual realm. As I watched the building several angels became visible. They stood at each corner of the building and some stood between them at the sides of the building. They looked as though they were preparing for something. Pretty soon some hideous looking creatures appeared. I could not figure out if they were demonic or angelic but they were ugly nonetheless. Some of them tried to shoot fire at the church building but as they prepared to do so, what looked like a very large and black cloud came over the building and it rained all over the building; large drops that inundated the building with water. The streams of fire that came from the enemy were quenched before it ever touched the building. Next, some of the enemy entities brought up a mighty wind, but as they prepared to hurl it upon the church building the angels all stood together and grew in height and they all stood shoulder to shoulder in effect making a wall. The wind that the evil entities hurled at the church hit the angels and was deflected upward, never touching the church. Next, some of the evil entities entertained the thought of bringing a shaking against the building to knock it down. The angels positioned themselves again by the church walls. Each angel placed one hand at the top of the building wall and plunged their other hand deep into the ground, I assume to make an anchor. As the ground shook the building didn’t move at all. After all of that happened I was able to look up into heaven and I saw Yeshua there. He looked mad, really mad. His voice then thundered out, “you will leave my people alone.” He raised His hand and pointed at each evil entity and as He did I heard a muffled explosion, saw a poof of smoke and the entity was gone…” http://www.yirmayahu.
In the second experience Dave remarks on becoming “lucid” so again he seems to be in a trance, and while praying sitting in church. In the third experience these details are absent, but I would guess this was the same as the first 2 times. As in the last example, the angels here do not match the Biblical descriptions of experiences with Holy angels, both in their untypical appearance, and also in that they grow in size to be gigantic. There is no biblical precedent that I am aware of for Holy angels to grow in size to be as tall as a building, almost like they are cartoon characters. This makes the experience of these visuals sound more imaginative and dreamlike. In the third experience Dave also sees “Yeshua”, and the symbolism in the experiences of the power of Jesus Christ over the demonic is correct. However, does this mean these experiences were from God?
These 3 experiences have to be taken together, as the first one led into the next two, all which occurred within 7 months of each other, and the last 2 within a month of each other. My big problems or questions with this that I would like to point out:
1. The combination of the 1st experience deceptively showing an angel with wings unnecessarily, combined with the frequency of these experiences. They are as easily argued to be a case of a familiar spirit bothering Dave as it is Dave seeing Holy angels in his church, as the Biblical precedent is that in the course of a prophet’s life having Holy Visions of Holy angels is a rare occurence.
2. That the experiences seem to convey no prophetic message, or new information, or biblical insight, as is seen in the Bible when people see a real Holy angel, or numbers of them.
3. That the details of the appearance of these supposedly real Holy angels visiting Dave’s church does not match that of Holy Angels in the Bible. So one of the main things that can be tested against the Bible, the appearance of these angels, does not match – the wings seen in the first experience is an overarching problem for all 3 experiences.
I know it is very obvious that these experiences seem to convey a positive message, that in general seems in line with the Bible; that angels and demons fight, angels win, and Jesus Christ has ultimate authority and victory. But keep in mind that these experiences from 10/2006 to 05/2007 led up to the more powerful ‘Book of Life’ experience in 08/2008, which clearly contradicted the Bible, and so was definitely a False Vision caused by a fallen angel. In between, these 3 experiences at his church with seeing angels also led up into, preparing Dave for, this experience in 07/2007, 2 months after his last angel experience at church:
“So as I lay on the floor praying prayers of supplication and protection for Israel I was all of a sudden high in the sky in the position of what I would assume was high above Egypt, probably closer to its western border. As I looked at Israel I could see its borders clearly defined. I looked away for a second and when I returned my gaze at Israel I noticed that two angels stood on Israel, both facing west. One stood on the northern part of Israel, his right foot at Israel’s northern border and his left foot in Samaria. The other angel had his right foot in Judah and his left foot was placed in the south near Elat. They were both dressed in battle regalia and both stood there, arms folded across their chest, like sentry’s standing in defiance. I was able to move around in the air and I noticed that as I moved to the east, like I was over Jordan I was much lower and I then looked at the angels who looked much larger from my lower view point; they were humungous. Next I was in the air over what seemed to be Colorado, in the United States. I lighted upon the ground there and my attention was called to the sky. As I looked I saw trails of what looked to be entry vehicles and I thought to myself that judgment had started on my nation and that judgment was coming by way of nuclear attack. As I watched each projectile fall, something strange happened. Each entry vehicle morphed from a simple piece of metal falling from the sky into a hideous looking demonic creature; all old, wrinkled, diseased looking but with a fierce countenance and large shark like teeth. Each demon streaked down with a fiery tail behind it and when it would hit a city it would explode with a large mushroom cloud. Chicago was the first to be hit and then the cities on the east coast, all the way down to Florida and then Texas was hit as was Los Angeles and San Francisco and a city in the Northwest. The center of the nation seemed untouched with the exception of Chicago.
I began to cry, thinking about all of the people who died, especially those who are followers of Yeshua. It was then that I saw a man coming out of one of the clouds of dust and fallout and I wondered what this was. Yahweh explained to me that this was a believer in Yeshua and that Yahweh had preserved him much like Hananiah, Azariah and Mishael were preserved in the fiery furnace in Babylon when Nebuchadnezzar tried to kill them. As I watched, more people started to emerge from the fiery radioactive cloud; each and every one untouched by the conflagration; their clothes clean and whole and their visage as though no calamity had happened.
Yahweh explained to me that He preserved His people as a testimony to the world of His love for His people. He said that they were saved so that they could minister to two groups of people; those who were not effected by radiation and who sought salvation because of the calamity and the testimony of those who God preserved; and those who were dying from radiation sickness’s from the blasts and later the fallout. Not only are we to minister to the dying by sharing the gospel, but we’ll be ministering to them by comforting them and caring for them as they die. That was the end of the vision.” http://www.yirmayahu.
Again we can see the angels standing as sentinels, and again Dave is on the floor praying – but there is a difference in this experience, as Dave says, “I was able to move around in the air”. This shows that Dave is developing more seeming-control during these experiences, that they are becoming more interactive and powerful (this one of course preceding the even more realistic and powerful False Vision experience with the ‘Book of Life’ about a year later.) Dave is now predicting large events of destruction in the future, which are not symbolic, but literal, as “Yahweh” explains these are literal survivors of literal nuclear bombs being dropped on real cities. I do not see where this event is mentioned in the Bible, and this would be a rather major event in the future. But not to make an argument from absence, I will make an argument from precedent.
Perhaps (or perhaps not) the closest thing to this scene Dave saw that is mentioned in the Bible is the destruction of Mystery Babylon, which deals with a single city, and NOT every city in a country.
“And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong [is] the Lord God who judgeth her.” Revelation 18:2-8
Note the Lord says, “Come out of her my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” Dave’s vision violates this on a couple levels. The first level is that God gives people a chance to flee the city, warning them to come out of her. Dave’s vision contained no such warning. The second level is that the Bible indicates those who remain in the city, who do not heed the warning to come out of her, will receive of her plagues. This sets some precedence, in that God is consistent. The same pattern is seen of Jerusalem in 70 AD, Jesus warned the people to flee in Luke 21:
Luk 21:20-21 “And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.”
The early Christians heeded the warning and fled, before the real trouble and siege started – however the Jews remained. So God is consistent, and tries to warn His people to leave cities before they are destroyed. But if they don’t leave they seem to partake of the plagues that befall that city. These two examples, either one, are a closer match than comparing this to the story of the fiery furnace in Daniel. However anyone might feel about it, the Biblical precedent is for God to issue a warning to flee, and when people don’t flee a city, they partake of the plagues of that city. Dave’s vision contradicts that Biblical precedent for these types of situations.
Another problem is that Dave says, “Yahweh explained to me that He preserved His people as a testimony to the world of His love for His people.” If this really were to occur, this would be a huge supernatural sign to the entire world. No such sign is mentioned in the Bible that I am aware of, and in fact the only thing I can think of as comparable is Mat 24:14, “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” There is precedent in this that a “testimony” or “witness” to the whole world in the end times (which we are in) does get some mention in the Bible. Yet what Dave saw in His Vision is not mentioned in the Bible, even though it is a “testimony to the world”. In fact this “testimony to the world” would be much more obviously supernatural, (almost to the point of proving the existence of God beyond the requirement of faith to see only these Christians be spared), than the witness to the world Jesus mentioned to occur in the last days, of the Gospel being preached to all the world before the end would come.
So we have covered the progression from milder visions with Bible-contradicting elements to them, starting with milder visions of angels with wings and generally unbiblical looking angels, then more angels in false prophecy of the future, also unbiblical, then a more powerful eyes-open False Vision (from a fallen angel) of false teaching that clearly and directly contradicts what the Bible teaches. What is also disturbing is the most recent ‘vision’ Dave recounts having, ealier this year of 2012, which is so very reminiscent of his first ones of angels back in 2006-2007, but only as an opposite, of darkness, compared to how this started.
“I was at our church prayer time held at the Union Gospel Mission. It was January 17, 2012 and approximately 5:15 PM. As I prayed I noticed that I was no longer at the Mission, but was sitting in a church, or what used to be a church. There was a pulpit at the front of the church and Barack Hussein Obama was speaking from the pulpit, but I could not hear what he was saying. I looked and the church had big and round stained glass windows and they all had pentagrams in them of various colors. As I looked around the room I noticed that there were black pentagrams floating in the air much like a two dimensional paper cutout of a pentagram would do and there were swastikas of black colors doing the same thing. I noticed that on the pulpit of the church was upside-down cross. Later I would realize that it was the cross from the top of the church belfry. To the right of Obama there was a menorah hanging probably two feet in length and one foot in height but it was hanging upside down and there were no candles in it. There was a set of candle holders, made of gold that had two white candles burning in them and they too were hanging upside down. For some reason I could still tell that Obama was talking but now I was standing in the front of the church to Obama’s left side, way over on the left however and nowhere close to him. I noticed that there were drunkards in the church and it looked like every lowlife that could be found was invited to the service and they were cheering Obama on. The center aisle, the side aisles and the floor in front of the church were full of evil looking venomous snakes. Somehow I was able to walk down the aisles and I saw that the pew section floors were littered with used condoms and used needles. Also, there were two men sitting in the back of the church on two chairs against the wall facing the front of the church. They were both dressed the same, with black suits on, black ties, white shirts and they sat there as if they were spectators. I got a feeling that these men were not participating in the service, but were there to report back to Yahweh; these were holy men. I also noticed that Obama has placed armed guards at the rear doors and it seemed they were there to keep people both in and/or out. The next thing that I knew I was outside the building and looking at it from a west perspective, meaning I was standing west looking east at the church. In many ways it reminded me of the old Christian Life Center church on Chandler Street in Vacaville, California. The church was in disrepair; the rooftops looked like they were made of wood shingles and there were some tiles missing and the rest of the roof looked like it was caving in and there was a lot of moss on the tiles. The side of the building was white but it looked like there was severe cracking all over the building, like it had been in a bad earthquake or something. There were angels warring on the roof and it was hard to tell which side was winning the battle. This is when the vision ended.” http://www.yirmayahu.
Does this scene sound familiar? What started off as vision experiences of happy angels filling a church and singing, and battling away demons successfully… has gradually turned into an incredibly dark scene.
If you are reading this Dave, this is my interpretation for you:
You were sitting in church having really dark false vision-type experiences caused by a fallen angel, and/or are under demonic oppression (and it’s bad enough you may need some deliverance help from another Christian besides yourself). When you go to church to pray and worship God with other Christians, you should not be having dark visions like this. You are there to fellowship, pray, and worship. You need spiritual warfare help, you need to repent of thinking this is God or Jesus, because it is not. You need to renounce this evil familiar spirit, remove it and rebuke it. You did not test the spirits years ago, and now are caught up in a spirit of false prophecy, that has just gotten a more powerful hold over you for years, and it just keeps getting darker and darker. You need to get help, and you need to get it now, don’t wait and let this get any worse. You need to get away from Jim, because this all started when you got close to him, because what he is teaching is not of God, and neither is the evil spirit behind Jim’s teachings, that you welcomed in when you welcomed him. Go find a deliverance minister and get some help now, to pray for you against the demonic. I really don’t doubt that you are a Christian, Dave. Don’t be afraid you have lost your salvation for getting caught up in a spirit of false prophecy, you have not. The Lord still loves you. This is part of how we learn to discern – learning to test the spirits, so things like this don’t happen. Your whole ministry has not been a waste, or anything like that. But you do need to repent, get this evil spirit out of your life, and then must clean everything up, and get Jim’s teachings and all this false prophecy and deception out of your life and ministry.
Don’t think I’m doing this cause I hate you Dave, cause I don’t hate you, rather I have love for you as a brother in Christ – but you are Deceived and have been – and worse, you can harm others and also draw them into being caught up in this evil spirit. It’s not about me and you, and it can’t just be about me and you – because I can’t just love you or just think only of you, I have to love other brothers and sisters in Christ and think of them too, that could get deceived also, or have been deceived. I have to love them also, which means warning them to not get caught up in this, or to get out of being caught up in it if they already are.
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].
– Paradox Brown
8/18/12
