The Antichrist Spirit Behind the Teachings of Jim Wilhelmsen of EchoesofEnoch.com
Here, I am going to focus on point 4 from the article “Heresies of Jim Wilhelmsen of EchoesofEnoch.org”, to better explain that Jim Wilhelmsen is teaching a different Jesus Christ than the Bible teaches, and one who did not come in the flesh. Jim in fact teaches that part of Jesus Christ’s flesh (His blood) came from a parallel universe, and so these teachings contradict that Jesus Christ came in the flesh per biblical definition. This reveals that the spirit behind these teachings is antichrist, per the Bible. It can be difficult to understand what Jim teaches, so first I am going to explain what he is teaching, and then explain the ramifications this has to the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ, and how this contradicts the Bible.
So you have some idea what we are looking at before we start: Generally, Jim paints of picture of God and eternity which is confused with the kingdom of God, and a parallel earth where no one ever sinned, no one has blood, as all being combined together as eternal in what Jim calls the parallel dimension/universe of “Heaven” or the “Old Heaven” or “New Heaven”. This is in contrast to our dimension/universe of “linear time”, which Jim claims is a parallel dimension/universe created through Satan and the Fall. Jim claims we are in a “linear time” divergence from the eternal “Heaven”, in which we all have gained blood in this fallen dimension of ‘linear time’, time which in fact is not so linear as it eventually loops back around on itself to before the Fall.
First, let’s look at Jim’s writings to see how he defines his terms, and how this contradicts the Bible.
“As you project this idea further you are left with the realization that if God’s domain exists outside of linear time and is complete within itself, then we who are are in this earthly plane are separated by time as well as space from the eternal realm: heaven. This would be the definition for a dimension. If both are existing simultaneously , Heaven and Earth are actually parallel dimensions!” http://www.
echoesofenoch.org/Museum4_ result_fall.htmA Parallel Dimension is a reality! One of the most bazaar ideas to be presented to mankind, the Science – Fiction thought of Parallel Dimensions is a Biblical reality! Time is part of the physical barrier that separates these two from each other. Sin, as missing the mark is why there is a separation. http://www. echoesofenoch.com/ paralleldimensions.htm
It is true that God’s domain, where God alone exists, is outside of time, seeing as God created time and was here before time began. But Jim’s first mistake is to call the eternal domain of God to be “Heaven”. God existed before time, and before the earth or any or all of the heaven(s) were created.
Gen 1:1, 2:1-2 “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth….Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.”
The Bible indicates there are 3 heavens: the 1st heaven being the atmosphere where the birds fly, the 2nd heaven being outer space, and the 3rd heaven being God’s throne where the angels live. http://carm.org/what-
1Ki 8:27 “But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?” (2 Ch 2:6, 6:18)
In fact being eternal is an attribute of God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit), and nothing and no one else has this attribute, because everything else that exists He also created.
Psa 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou [art] God.Exd 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
What Jim does is confuse the attribute of God alone, of being the eternal I AM, as an attribute of the place of the 3rd Heaven. But this is incorrect, as the 3rd Heaven was created and had a beginning, per Gen 1:1. In other words “eternity/eternal” is an attribute of God Himself, not the 3rd heaven, nor those of the “kingdom of God”, all of which are created places and beings with a beginning point in linear time. Conceptually, “before” God created time, God alone IS, existed as eternal in eternity.
Jim’s second mistake, is to take the “eternal” attribute of God alone, and after wrongly lending this attribute to the 3rd Heaven, to then proceed to claim this fits the definition of a “dimension”. This is incorrect according to the scientific use of the term “dimension”. We live in a world where we can perceive 3 spatial dimensions (length, width, height) and 1 dimension of time. It’s clear that God created the dimension of time, “in the beginning”, “before” which there was not time, there was only God who is eternal. Thus we know that the “dimension” of time is a byproduct of the creation process. Similarly, the earth and heavens were created as spatial places and they have the attribute of these “dimensions” of length, height, width (as well as time). Again, the “dimensions” of length, height, and width are seen to be byproducts of the creation process. Thus, “dimensions” are things that God created when He created the heavens, and the earth, in the beginning (of time). Dimensions are created things, attributes of the created world, and God existed before any dimensions existed that He made. God who alone is eternal, outside of time, outside of space, the earth, the heavens, all of creation, with all of it’s dimensions – is Not Himself another dimension in His eternal attribute, nor in another dimension. God alone is outside of and beyond all dimensions, as dimensions are things He created.
However, after confusing the 3rd Heaven as being eternal (which it is not), then (as we shall soon see) Jim confuses the 3rd Heaven with the Kingdom of God (God’s children), he then further confuses this with an imaginary invention of a perfect universe where no one ever sinned (and no one has blood), combining all this together as being one place with the attribute of ‘eternal’ (which none of these do have and/or would have if they existed) as ‘eternal’ is an attribute of God alone. Which leads to great bible-contradicting confusion, which we will get to soon.
But before that, building on the prior two mistakes, Jim then labels the ‘eternal’ (3rd Heaven & Kingdom of God & Parallel universe sinless world), as being a “parallel dimension”, making use of the science fiction use of the term “dimension”. In fact a “parallel dimension” in science fiction parlance is better called a “parallel universe” for clarity’s sake. This is because in science fiction each “parallel universe” is composed of it’s own “dimensions” (length, width, height, time) as per science, modeled after our own universe. As such in science fiction stories it is possible to conceive of a “parallel universe” which has fewer, like only 2 spatial dimensions, or more, like 6 spatial dimensions, or any number of “dimensions” (per science terminology) as you might like. I can recall at least one scifi story in which the so-called cosmic egg of the big bang had never exploded, and inter-dimensional travelers in a spacecraft had to instantly leave (before they arrived) so as to avoid becoming non-existent due to the lack of “dimensions” in existence in this immature “parallel universe”, in which, as 4-dimensional creatures, they could not survive an instant with 0 dimensions present (..or it was something like that).
So far Jim has defined “Heaven” to be the “eternal realm”, and a “parallel universe”, while also trying to mislabel it in science terminology as a “parallel dimension”. So let’s look at how else Jim defines “Heaven”, giving more detail on “Heaven” as a parallel universe:
“Another specific account? Gen 5:1-3 “This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; 2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. 3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:”God and Lord God is the DifferenceThere would appear to be a total different description in the accounts of the generations in the day God created, and when the LORD God created. The idea of one account created by the LORD God suggests, as the title indicates, that the covenant God created. The covenant God would indicate the need for a covenant as an act of redemption.This acting God of redemption would only be active as creator in the dimension that had fallen. Therefore the account following would be the alteration necessary for the fallen generation within that fallen parallel dimension.The other account by God would require no redemption. This describes his perfectly willed plan that he initiated and carried out. It is in this sense Heaven and Earth are parallel dimensions; one carried out to perfection, one fallen into a distortion yet both existing at the same time. Now if heaven and earth exist as parallel dimensions then we need to look at some very important differences.God created: The perfect dimensionIn the generation, God created Adam and Eve who conceived and bore Seth. There is no mention of Cain and Abel in the generation that God created. Seth was the lineage that Jesus would come from and described as the “chosen.” Could this be the reason they were the chosen? Because in God’s original intended creation, were they the only intended race to exist? If, as many have claimed the overlapping stories of the same event is truly that, why is the last account in Gen 5 not the most detailed? Remember the opening lines here declare, “..this is the generation of Adam in the day God created.” This account has excluded any mention of Cain and Abel.If this is the detailed description of the same account prior mentioned in 1,2 or 4 certainly the most important part of lineage; who is the firstborn, would of been mentioned.The fact that the Bible mentions in an opening statement, a difference of God and the LORD God clarifies a difference to the reader. The understanding of this difference is in the sense of different dimensions.” http://
echoesofenoch.org/two_seeds. htm”1. If it is true that only one race, the brown races and descendants of Seth was the original intention of God in his perfect ordered universe, as we might of glimpsed at in Gen 52. And that Satan had “sown his own seed as an untimely birthing of fraternal twins by Eve. (By untimely I mean that this whole event was not in God’s time and ahead of the intended birth of only Seth.” http://echoesofenoch. org/two_seeds.htm
Here, as I mentioned, Jim defines “Heaven” to be a parallel universe, one in which Seth was Adam and Eve’s first son. (Already having covered Jim’s Serpent Seed Heresy of Satan fathering Cain elsewhere, we will skip that for now.) Jim claims this original intention of God seems to be reflected in Gen 5, like the scriptures are a window into the events occurring in this perfect parallel universe, existing beside us. In fact Jim seems to think that the use of the different terms “God” and “Lord God” in Genesis could reflect God in the perfect parallel universe, and God in the fallen parallel universe in which we live. But this perfect parallel universe is also defined to be “Heaven”, which Jim has already defined to be “the eternal realm”. How does Jim say we got to be in this fallen “parallel universe” we are supposedly in?
“As I have stated in other sections, there are two trees representing two dimensions, One based upon Faith in a loving Father for his creation and following the perfect willed course of events to eternity, the other a deviation and offshoot from the original. A distortion that now all of the seed from the Kingdom must go through. Each must live a mortal existence in their own “ripple of time”…A literal breaching of space and time created an offshoot parallel dimension. This happened from the resulting wrong decision at Eden. Now, all of God’s creation must experience a mortal existence in a hostile environment.” www.
The Hebrew word for tree used in Gen 2:9 has an emphases on the product from it’s origin to be utilized in the sense of making firm or fasten, to close or seal. In this sense the tree is more of a door or gateway. The word for tree also has much in common with the Hebrew word for generations. It is how and why we get the idea of a “family tree.” With a trunk branches, leaves and fruit, this “tree” could symbolically be suggesting an opening to another dimension. With this in mind the two trees of Genesis, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and the tree of life could represent pathways or dimensional portals whose entrance depends upon a decision of faith or disobedience in the form of self-reliance. http://www.
A wrong choice was made putting man in a lesser state, spiritually separated from God, physically in a lesser form and placed into an entire altered dimension.http://www.echoesofenoch.com/
Their very biology had changed by making this wrong choice. They now became a second rate creation. There eyes did become open, and in this lesser state they became as “naked” before God, this change was obvious in their hindered state. With only one tenth of there brain capacity at hand and an addition of a blood system they were made fragile and mortal. This addition of a blood system is very important. It was this addition that projected this line of existence away from God, and eternity into the linear mortal dimension…
Blood in; Blood out: It was blood that got us into a mortal existence and a different blood that once shed would bring us back to the previous existence. Adam’s statement in regards to the newly formed Eve, “And Adam said, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh.” Gen2:23. I believe the absence of the mention of blood is very important. This was before the temptation and they had no blood as they were created like their Father.” ”After the resurrection, Jesus describes himself as not a spirit but as a living being flesh and bone minus blood. He is in the eternal state without blood.” (Luke 24:39) “Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.” 1Co 15:50 In God’s eternal kingdom, only perfection according to his will, can exist with him, Flesh and Blood not included. www.echoesofenoch.
So how is it that you and I in this fallen parallel universe can be the same you or I that co-exist, right now, in the perfect parallel universe in bloodless bodies, never having sinned? The story Jim tells, in as close as I can get to chronological order, further explains that not only do you and I exist here, and in a perfect bloodless parallel universe of “Heaven” in the “eternal realm”, but also you and I are also currently co-existing in a 3rd! place, which predates creation. This place is also the “eternal realm” of “Heaven” but Jim changes his terms to reflect that this 3rd co-existence predates our other (co?)existences.
“In the Old Heaven, all of God’s creation were like children who though they were rich and well provided for they never could appreciate it as they had never known anything else. In the new Heaven, they are over comers. They have known the difference by experience and by faith accepted the way of redemption Now they experience their relationship as mature children. “The most often asked question once I have convinced someone of the possibility of our mortal linear existence is in reality a parallel altered universe, is WHY? Why did a loving God allow such a horrible thing to happen. Rather it is his desire for a more richly, deeper, mature relationship with his creation. His children never knew anything but perfection. They never experienced or knew of anything less. Not being their fault, but they would be like a bunch of spoiled rich kids! This situation is not the result that they were doing anything wrong. They simply couldn’t appreciate what they had as never knowing anything else!” www.echoesofenoch.com/
paralleldimensions.htmwww. echoesofenoch.com/essential_ theology_part_1.htm
Psa 139:16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all [my members] were written, [which] in continuance were fashioned, when [as yet there was] none of them.Isa 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I [am] the LORD that maketh all [things]; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
To be fair, Jim later clarifies? that this pre-existence in the “Old Heaven” does exist? happen? parallel in “the eternal realm” at the same point? time? as we currently live out our lives in the fallen “parallel altered universe” that we know as existence. In other words, Jim teaches that you and I are right now also existing in the eternal realm, living on a parallel planet earth, never having sinned, with bloodless bodies – right now. Though, at the same time after the “Old Heaven” of this perfect earth, we will eternally/later/after-that learn from our experience of what it was like to live out our lives here in the non-perfect world we know. Because Jim also makes clear that after our lives in “the Old Heaven”, then we experienced “our mortal linear existence” in this fallen “parallel altered universe”, and after that we will get to the “New Heaven”, where we will have learned to appreciate the “Old Heaven” we once had.
But nevertheless, this was all before linear time began, as can be known by:
“LINEAR – MORTAL DIMENSION: Linear was not God’s intention
The first fact that is very important to establish in your thinking is the fact that this whole dimension; the earth, the ski, heavens and all contained in this material universe is included as being outside of God’s intended and designed Kingdom…Jesus said that his basileia (realm and rule) were not of this Kosmos, (orderly arrangement, adorning, The total sum of the material universe.)…Clearly this spacial realm we call our universe, our linear existence, is not God’s order. It is separated and apart from God’s intended creation. Yet, at the same time, the Bible tells us that all things were created by God and that nothing was created without him.(1Col 1:16,17) By this there is the understanding of ruler-ship. God is in control of everything. Nothing is beyond his control. There is in this sense a creation by extension. God created Satan, who then fell and imitated creation by his deceiving Adam and Eve. This deception placed them in this distorted linear dimension and produced mortality with death waiting in the end. This distorted creation is an imitation by Satan and a parallel universe to the real thing. It is however, ultimately the creation by extension from God, who is still in control, as this is all part of his plan to mature a relationship with his creation. Our mortal linear existence is actually an alternate universe!” http://www.
Jim teaches that our existence in linear time was never God’s intention. Therefore, in both the perfect bloodless parallel universe, and the Old Heaven, which Jim describes God did intend, Jim is truly defining these to be of “the eternal realm” of “Heaven”. Making sense of this as per reality, what Jim is describing is that we pre-existed co-eternally with God, before time, and are living there now with God in “the eternal realm” of “Heaven”, before time began. Unfortunately, this characteristic only belongs to Jesus Christ. You and I did not pre-exist in the “eternal realm” of “the Old Heaven” before time began. The only one who existed before time began, was God Himself, who in fact created and began time. What Jim is teaching would require for us to have had a pre-existence with God, which Jesus Christ had as He is God, but we never had. And this pre-existence Jim described would require for us to have seen God, but the Bible teaches:
1Jo 4:12 “No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.”Jhn 1:18 “No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him].“Jhn 3:13 “And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of man which is in heaven.“Jhn 8:58 “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”Jhn 1:1-3 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.”
Jesus Christ is the only one who has seen God, and the only one who is God the Son, and so could exist both here, and in the past and future) because Jesus Christ is God and eternal. Jim is loosely laying characteristics that belong to God alone, even specifically Jesus Christ, onto the rest of Christians – but we are not like Jesus Christ in these respects, because He is God. Attributing characteristics that solely belong to God as being had by people that are His creation is an often seen satanic ploy.
Another satanic ploy that is common in false teachings is to exalt Satan to have much more power than he ever does or did have. Jim’s last quote said “this whole dimension; the earth, the ski, heavens and all contained in this material universe is included as being outside of God’s intended and designed Kingdom…This distorted creation is an imitation by Satan and a parallel universe to the real thing.” Jim is in fact teaching that Satan was responsible for not just tempting man into sin, but rather Jim has amplified Satan’s power to state nothing less than the entire physical universe we live in, that the earth, the sky, the stars, all you can see, is all an imitation parallel universe created by Satan’s power. This extreme exaggeration of Satan’s power, far beyond biblical truth, is another tell-tale sign of the source of these ideas.
But even more disturbing than anything thus far, is how Jim Wilhelmsen then describes that all of linear time in our fallen parallel universe, is in fact not linear at all, but circular:
“To try and grasp this understanding of eternity, we can see it as the linear time line of mankind’s total history wrapped up from end to end, purged from anything not in God’s intended creation and connected into a circle of his perfect will. No past no future, only now, with all things coexistent with each other and made perfect to his will. This of course has already been done in another parallel dimension- Heaven! A glimpse of these points coming together? Consider the condition we find the earth in described in Genesis 1.”In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.” The Hebrew words Tohuw and Bohuw are used here to describe the condition of the earth. It is more commonly accepted that the translation should be desolation and laid waste with death and despair upon the face of the deep or abyss. With this understanding it has always been suggested that the earth was left in this condition because of a prior rebellion of Satan and his angels. I would like to suggest that their was no prior “falling” of Satan. This condition is the end result of earth and the beginning coming together. This is the exact state described In Rev21:1 and 2Pe3:7,12.” http://www.
2 Pet 3:7-12 “But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men….Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?”Rev 21:1 “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”
Despite the difficulty, as they make no sense, I have managed to draw out a fairly accurate diagram of Jim’s teachings, as well as a much easier to draw and understand diagram of Biblical truth about the heavens and time. I’m going to present them both here for you to compare. (The picture notes skip a little ahead, but we’ll get to that shortly). And I’m also linking a color depiction of God, eternity, and time which also is accurate, if you understand the red timeline to represent the earth and all 3 Heavens having a beginning creation point in time. And where the red line seems to merge at right angles out into eternity, see the other pencil sketch picture for details on how that works.
On Jim’s, Hopefully the top is labeled well enough to make out the combination of the “eternal realm” of “Heaven”, God, the “3rd Heaven”, the “Old Heaven”, and the “New Heaven”, and God’s Kingdom and His children, along with Jim’s bloodless perfect parallel universe, all combined together in the same place. On the bottom part, as Genesis loops back around to Revelation in a circle of time, this resembles the Ouroboros. Because Jim teaches that Gen 1:1 describes the aftermath of 2 Pet 3:7-12 and Rev 21:1, this means that Jim Wilhelmsen’s entire framework is cyclic, and so must have already cycled through once. Jim is teaching that when we read Gen 1:1, we are actually looking at the destruction of the Earth we know in the future, mentioned in 2 Pet 3:7-12 and Rev 21:1. Jim is teaching that we are caught in an infinite time-loop that always has been, and always will be, where the same mistake of the Fall happens over and over again, perpetually existing forever. This is because Jim teaches the cycle has already happened once, which necessitates that we are stuck in a loop where it will happen again and again forever, and always has been. That is what he is actually teaching, and this diagram visually shows his cosmological framework throughout time. (The visual basically looks like a nut, and a snake biting it’s tail which is also biting the nut at the same time, while hanging off of the nut… )
Is this reality? No. God alone (Father Holy Spirit and Son) existed eternally, and created time, which has a beginning, and then time continues forever. We who have eternal life come to run parallel with our eternal God who made us, in the future living with Him forever, but we never become Him, nor do we ever share in eternity with God as an attribute He alone has. What I mean, put another way, is we will live forever with God in the future, but we always will have had a beginning point in time in which we were created, and prior to that point, we did not exist. God alone is the great “I AM” who is eternal.
This is unlike Jim’s flawed cosmology, which has us existing before we were born, and after the New Heavens exist, and in a perfect sinless state in the parallel universe of “Heaven”, all at the same time we are existing as sinful creatures, right here and right now. In Jim’s cosmology our creation may have occured when we were born, but we also existed in “the eternal realm” before we were born, with God in Heaven. Jim’s essentially seems to be describing each of God’s children to have qualities that alone belong to Jesus Christ, by partaking in “the eternal realm” before we were born, or “the Old Heaven”, and co-existing at other points in “the eternal realm” at the same time we live our lives here.
Another problem is that IF each of us was also living out a perfect sinless life in a perfect bloodless parallel universe, we would have no need for Jesus Christ to save us. Why should Jesus need to die for the sins of us people in the fallen parallel universe (here), when each of us sinners also co-exists already as sinless in the perfect sinless parallel universe? The ramifications are really bothersome, when it comes to the biblical truth that we are not capable of being sinless, and need God’s help and Holy Spirit. Jim Wilhelmsen has each and every one of us, starting with Adam and Eve, as being theoretically able to be sinless without God’s help, for all their lives, no Holy Spirit required. It’s like Adam and Eve and all who followed were each a Jesus Christ onto their own in this supposed perfect bloodless parallel universe of “the eternal realm” of “Heaven”. In fact the reason why Jim can combine “Heaven” and “the eternal realm” and all the rest like he does is because this entire idea places us people as having attributes of God and Jesus Christ which we do not have, an eternal backstory that is not true, practically making each of us out to be a pre-existing part of God. Jim has the perspective and characteristics of God and men greatly confused. Again, assigning to people the attributes and qualities of God that He alone possesses is a common satanic ploy, and Jim Wilhelmsen’s teachings are full of them.
It is ironic that Jim also says,
“Re-cycled Humanity is illogical to this model
Understanding the idea of grace an unwarranted favor, the uniqueness of one God who became man to restore everything, it makes no sense or logic to this model to believe in any concept of recycling through the idea of reincarnation. http://www.echoesofenoch.com/
This is ironic because it is very clear that if you logically add up Jim’s teachings, then re-cycled humanity on a much grander scale is precisely what Jim is teaching. Jim does not teach reincarnation and recycling in this life on a small scale of individuals, but he is teaching that all of God’s children cycle through linear time over and over again in a fallen altered parallel universe, like a snake biting it’s tail. Jim’s description of this cycle looks just like a reincarnation cycle, but on a larger scale.
Now that you hopefully can visualize and at least potentially understand the key points of the larger cosmological framework that Jim is teaching, I am going to get the point of how Jim’s teachings are not just wrong and unbiblical, but alter the person of Jesus Christ now, and these teachings are antichrist in that they contradict that Jesus Christ came in the flesh per biblical definition.
”Sin means to miss the mark. That Mark is God’s perfect kingdom and his ways, existing in the eternal realm and translated out as the tree of Life. Adam and Eve chose the other tree, The tree of knowledge translated into a lesser dimension. We were stuck in this dimension until God himself came and undid the paradox at Calvary. In this parallel dimension created by the fall in Eden, our environment changed from the original intention provided for mankind by God. In addition to a physical change in this lesser dimension, our physical bodies also changed from the perfect intended one God provided. We will next see that blood was a part of getting us into this mess and another blood would get us out as a means of fixing this paradox.“ http://www.
echoesofenoch.org/Museum4_ result_fall.htm“1. Adam’s statement in regards to the newly formed Eve, “And Adam said, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh.” Gen2:23. I believe the absence of the mention of blood is very important. This was before the temptation and they had no blood as they were created like their Father. After the resurrection, Jesus describes himself as not a spirit but as a living being flesh and bone minus blood. He is in the eternal state without blood. (Luke 24:39)2. “The life of the flesh is in the blood.” Lev 17:11 Mortal life is in the blood. This mortal life was given only as a result of the wrong choice during the temptation. Blood is the only dietary law carried over into the New Testament, in the prohibition of eating it. Lev 17:10 and Acts 21:25.3. “Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.” 1Co 15:50 In God’s eternal kingdom, only perfection according to his will, can exist with him, Flesh and Blood not included. http://www. echoesofenoch.com/ paralleldimensions.htm
The place that Jim calls “Heaven” and the “eternal realm”, Jim defines to also be a parallel universe where we all exist as perfect and sinless, and where no one has blood, as well as being “the Old Heaven”, “the New Heaven” and God’s eternal kingdom of God’s children. In this place Jim calls “Heaven”, a combination of all these places, Jim says no one has blood in their bodies. And Jim also teaches that Adam and Eve only got blood after the Fall, and before that they had no blood in their bodies, because they were created like their Father.
And Jim teaches that Jesus Christ does not have blood in His resurrection body now, and “He is in the eternal state without blood”. And that no one in “Heaven” (with all that means to Jim) can have blood. Jim bases this teaching on Gen 2:23 and Luke 24:39, in which Adam, Eve, and Jesus are all mentioned to have “flesh and bone”, but blood is not mentioned. However, the Bible teaches that the blood is part of what the Bible defines as “flesh”:
But flesh with the life thereof, [which is] the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. Gen 9:4
For [it is] the life of all flesh, its blood is for its life; and I say to the sons of Israel, Blood of any flesh ye do not eat, for the life of all flesh is its blood; any one eating it is cut off. Lev 17:14
“Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.” Luke 24:39
1Cr 15:50-51 “Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed”
1Cr 15:44 “It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.”
Luk 24:39 “Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.”
The resurrected Jesus Christ states plainly that He has “flesh”, the same Greek word “sarx” which is used in 1 Cor 15:50 for “flesh”. So IF “flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God” was to be taken as “flesh” and “blood” each are literally not allowed, then the Bible would contradict itself, as Jesus would be saying one thing, and Paul saying the opposite, irreconcilably. Jesus said His resurrected body had flesh, and Thomas was even invited to put his finger in the wound of Jesus’ side (of flesh):
Jhn 20:27 “Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust [it] into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.”
Jim also teaches that the blood Jesus Christ had in His “natural body” was different somehow, that being it was not from this fallen parallel universe of linear time.
The second Adam would undo what was done in the Garden in the same manner only with the elimination (or pouring out) of a blood foreign to the influence of this altered state. http://www.
“If a wrong decision caused a parallel dimension of linear existence with an addition of blood to a mortal frail existence, then another blood, mortal yet untainted from this fallen dimension needed to come into existence to undo the whole process.” www.echoesofenoch.com/two_
“There is uniqueness in the person of Christ. Only he as God, became a man, like us in every way except his blood unnatural to this dimension. This gave him the power to overcome this world system and altered universe.” www.echoesofenoch.com/
To be “unnatural to this dimension” as Jim says, Jesus’ blood that He was born with could not have developed in part from his mother like the rest of mankind, because then it would have been “natural” to this “fallen dimension”. Jim specifically says that Jesus Christ was NOT like us in regards to His blood:
But the Bible teaches that Jesus partook as much of human flesh and blood as any man:
“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil” Heb 2:14
Jim teaches that Jesus Christ did not partake as much as any man in both His flesh and blood. The Bible defines the blood to be part of the flesh: ”flesh with the life thereof, [which is] the blood thereof”. (Gen 9:4) And so teaching the blood of Jesus Christ was unnatural to the ‘fallen linear time’ parallel universe Jim teaches we live in, is saying that part of Jesus’ flesh was unnatural to this fallen parallel universe, and so was from the imaginary perfect parallel universe that does not exist. Jim is teaching that a part of Jesus Christ’s flesh in his mortal body was from an imaginary perfect parallel universe, in which Adam and Eve never sinned, Seth was their first son, etc. And even if one would want to argue that “flesh and blood: here in Heb 2:14 is again a Phrase referring to the “natural body”, then we get the same result. Jim still is teaching that part of Jesus Christ’s natural body that he was born with, his blood, was not not natural, but foreign and untainted by this fallen ‘linear time’ parallel universe, and so from an imaginary perfect parallel universe that does not exist.Jim alters the person of Jesus Christ and so denies that Jesus Christ fully came in the flesh as the Bible teaches, by stating Jesus Christ was “like us in every way except his blood unnatural to this dimension”. That is NOT what the Bible teaches. The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ was like us in every way, including His blood which was natural to this this universe we live in. Jesus Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit, and free of sin, and so his perfect life was reflected in His perfect sinless blood. But that blood was natural to the real fallen universe we live in, and not from Jim’s imaginary parallel universe that does not exist. And thus we can know that the spirit behind these teachings of Jim’s is an antichrist spirit, teaching deception, because these teachings contradict that Jesus Christ came in the flesh per biblical definition.
“And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.” 1 Jn 4:3
“For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.” 2 Jn 1:7
According to the Bible, the spirit behind these teachings is an antichrist spirit. How do we know this? Because Jim’s teachings add up to him altering the blood of Jesus Christ, which is part of the flesh of Jesus Christ, making it to be from an imaginary perfect parallel universe. Jim is teaching that part of the flesh of Jesus Christ was not the same as that of any man, but in fact “unnatural” and “foreign” to this universe. Jesus Christ is who He is, and of all the things one could understand wrongly about Jesus, the Bible tells us that we can know if someone or some spirit does not confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh, as the Bible teaches is truth, then we can know with surety that this is an antichrist spirit and deception. (If you have any trouble seeing this, look back to the diagram and notes.)
There is one additional problem with Jim’s teachings, which is not a paradox, but simply a major self-contradiction. Jim states there cannot be blood in this place he calls “Heaven”, and No one in “Heaven”(all Jim’s meanings for it) has blood, nor can have blood. Yet according to Jim, being unnatural and foreign to this parallel universe, Jesus Christ’s blood came from there. That being the place of bloodless people, where blood is not allowed.
This is where Jim’s entire framework falls apart. Jesus’ blood can’t be from here, so it must be from there. But it also can’t be from there. It’s “unnatural/foreign/untainted” by this fallen linear time parallel universe, so it can’t be from here, but it can’t be from the perfect sinless eternal parallel universe of “Heaven” either, cause there’s no blood allowed there. Jim’s backed himself into an illogical corner with this framework so much so that the only conclusion is that there is no place that Jesus Christ’s blood could be from, according to Jim. It’s not a paradox, it’s just a lot of self-contradiction, unbiblical, and utter nonsense.
Finally, one more quote from Jim:
“Jesus Christ, God in the flesh, who completed the same but opposite of the wrong decision in Eden is the only way back.” http://www.
Here it could seem to you that Jim says Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. BUT look carefully. Jim adds a caveat, to define who this Jesus is, by just simply Having to add that who Jim is referring to is the Jesus who “completed the same but opposite of the wrong decision in Eden”. According to Jim, what happened in Eden? The bloodless Adam and Eve sinned and then blood was added to their bodies. What does Jim teach as the opposite of this? That the Jesus who had blood from an imaginary perfect bloodless parallel universe, lost all that blood, and remains bloodless since. What does that mean? Who is Jim referring to? You guessed it, once again, Jim is referring back to a Jesus whose blood is unnatural to this fallen parallel universe of linear time, and from an imaginary perfect parallel universe. Is that the Jesus Christ the Bible teaches? No.
Jim Wilhelmsen: Repent!