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Posted by WARN on Aug 20, 2012
The False Prophecy, Visions, Dreams, and Curses of Dave Ruffino of Delusion Resistance – Part 2

The False Prophecy, Visions, Dreams, and Curses of Dave Ruffino of Delusion Resistance – Part 2

Part 2: Heresies, False Dreams, and False Prophecy of Dave Ruffino (and Jim Wilhelmsen)

To give you the correct and full context, I’m first going to quote from my article on the Heresies of Jim Wilhelmsen, 

 “2. Salvation by Grace

Jim teaches that Satan’s literal seed through Cain reemerged from a hollow earth after the flood, and intermixed with those on the surface of the earth who descended from Noah.

“Cain and his family were sentenced just before the flood into the inner earth. Through a tunnel system mentioned in Job 41 they could of reappeared on the surface after the flood and intermixed.” “This seed intermixed before the flood and also after the flood and was dealt with harshly.”

Jim teaches that Satan’s seed, while appearing human, have no spirits capable of being redeemed, and therefore could never come to salvation in Jesus Christ.

“They will never hear the voice of God or the prompting of His Spirit. They are of this world and hear only their Father who is the god of this world.” “By this statement, we are not, being told to preach to animals but to every created being. This is a clue that not all humans are God’s. There are some that are of another linage, therefore not a human created by God but a created being imitated by Satan. ” …”While this great hope and promise is provided for God’s seed there is another seed that is at enmity against God and has no hope. The Bible is clear that there are some that do not have a spirit, therefore it is impossible for them to ever hear or understand the things of God.” …

Jim teaches Satan’s seed through Cain contaminated all the nations and races, but that only the Jews were of God’s seed and race, truly human, having a spirit, and able to receive salvation. Jim teaches that the dispersal of the ten tribes of Israel was essential to the “appearance” that Christ could save the gentiles.

“At the same time the scattering of HIS CHOSEN’S seed in the form of “Jacobs” seed” (the ten northern tribes) are dispersed into all world mixing with all three races and insures race and bloodline are no longer the issue of seeds and salvation. The appearance of a redeemer now being made ready for whosoever may come.” “The importance of God’s plan to allow the dispersion of the Northern ten tribes of Israel into all the world, known as the scattering of Jacob’s seed, was in a sense God’s own hybridization plan that would no longer make race and bloodlines an issue. By implanting HIS seed into all three races, called the fullness of time, (Gal 4:4) Christ came and it was now possible for “whosoever will” may come to accept grace and redemption.”

Putting this all together, it means Jim teaches that salvation comes by bloodline. Jim teaches that the Gentiles who came to Christ in the New Testament were actually Jews from the dispersed 10 tribes of Israel, who were not aware they were of the bloodline of the Jews. This is while everyone else is of the bloodline of Cain, literally fathered by Satan, Satan’s seed who are incapable of receiving salvation. This is not just a teaching about history, but about the present day world.

But the Bible teaches that salvation is not dependent upon blood or bloodlines:

“But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.” Jn 1:12-13

If one takes the Bible as the Word of God, then when the Bible says “Jew” it means “Jew”, and when the Bible says “Gentile” it means “Gentile”. In teaching that the Gentiles who came to Christ were really secretly Jews, Jim teaches again denies the authority of the Bible. The Bible teaches:

“That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.” Gal 3:14

“For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.” 1 Cor 12:13

 Jim denies that Salvation is by Grace, but rather is by bloodline.

Beyond this, Jim says that it is God who started him down this road showing him these things “God started showing me in His Word about two separate seeds or genetic lines, one was His and one was Satan’s….This also tied into the two dimensions”  and is included in Jim’s statement of faith on his website, ““We believe in two literal seeds mentioned in Genesis 3” “

Back to it, having covered that for context, Dave Ruffino strongly promotes Jim Wilhelmsen’s website:

“For anyone who is interested in additional studies of this subject I strongly encourage you to read the article that Jim Wilhelmsen from Echoes of Enoch has written about it. Jim is my friend… His article can be reached by clicking on the following link: I’d also strongly encourage you to read the rest of his website which you will find quite informative and where you will learn a lot…I mean a real lot!!” 

In this same article Dave agrees with Jim’s teachings that saved Christians who might seem to be Gentiles are actually of the line of Jews of the dispersed ten tribes of Israel: 

He starts off,

“…Messiah came to visit and to die a ransom for our sins. When people started to accept His sacrifice and to become saved they were cut on their edges and grafted into the tree that had not produced for centuries. They were a new vitality that was given to the tree. Some were gentiles (maybe)…” (emphasis mine) 

Then Dave continues to his conclusions,

“But again we come to the question of who exactly is the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel. We’ve determined that they have pretty well been absorbed into gentile society and have mixed their blood with gentile blood. Those who carry the Hebrew blood in the gentile world wouldn’t have to necessarily know that they bore Hebrew genes because Yahweh knows who they are, but are there indicators that might prove who they are? Is there a way for them to know who they are? Well, the answer might just be in the scripture in Romans that says: “and all of Israel will be saved..” “So where the Tribes of Israel in the present day are concerned, it is no surprise that Yahweh has chosen some from each tribe to constitute His kingdom here on Earth. There is no doubt that in today’s world there could be literally billions who are of the seed of Israel.” My contention is that of all of those people, just a minority have taken Yahweh seriously. Just a fraction have decided to call Yahweh their Lord.” (emphasis mine)

Dave also teaches what Jim teaches, that those who are saved are from the lost ten tribes. Dave seems to have further modified this teaching, making the point that only some of the descendants of the lost ten tribes become Christian: a remnant of Israel. But Dave teaches all those who constitute God’s kingdom here on Earth, Christians in other words, are from the lost ten tribes. So Dave teaches salvation is in part by bloodline, and not just that Salvation is by Grace alone.

Together Dave and Jim run the group PAAPSI, which used to be called AACCOA. It purports to help abductees with being set free from abductions. On this website it has several articles for abductees. One which went online after it became PAAPSI teaches more of Jim’s Serpent’s Seed heresy:

“The tall 8′ Nordics are probably the subterranean decedents of Cain. They were sentenced to wander in the land of Nod east of Eden.” by Jim Wilhelmsen

But the Bible teaches that no one survived the Flood except for those on the Ark of Noah (Gen 6:17-19, 1 Pet 3:20). So Dave also supports Jim’s teachings that Cain’s descendents survived the flood in the hollow earth; even while Jim also teaches that Cain was fathered by Satan. The PAAPSI website links to both Jim’s and Dave’s websites, and Going to either of their websites, you will find a link on the homepage to their group called Remnant Call, which advertises as a bi-weekly chatroom on Paltalk. (I have heard the format may have changed recently, but as of this writing all of this information is still current as per their websites relating to Remnant Call.)

On the Remnant Call website for the chatroom, Jim and Dave also teach that Christians are descended from the 10 lost tribes of Israel.

“But again we come to the question of who exactly is the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel. We’ve determined that they have pretty well been absorbed into gentile society and have mixed their blood with gentile blood. Those who carry the Hebrew blood in the gentile world wouldn’t have to necessarily know that they bore Hebrew genes because Yahweh knows who they are, but are there indicators that might prove who they are? Is there a way for them to know who they are? Well, the answer might just be in the scripture in Romans that says: “and all of Israel will be saved…” “So where the Tribes of Israel in the present day are concerned, it is no surprise that Yahweh has chosen some from each tribe to constitute His kingdom here on Earth.” -Dave Ruffino

This is a continuation of Jim’s Serpent Seed teachings. Added to this, then Dave and Jim invite the readers to consider they might be one of the 144,000 from the tribes of Israel who are mentioned in the book of Revelation. 

“The Book of Revelation talks about a specific group of people, numbering one hundred forty four thousand who have been called by Yahweh to perform a special ministry during the last days. It is quite possible that some of you or even me are in that number.” “There might be some of you who know that you have been called to this special last days ministry… Perhaps you’ve felt a special calling in your life and it hasn’t been revealed to you yet what that calling might be… It would probably be a good idea then to seek out Yahweh about this and if you are one of them then perhaps we should all get together to fast and pray and to seek His will.” “It will be interesting to see how things play out, but will be even more interesting will be to see how any of us will play out in this end-time scenario.” “All Israel Will Be Saved – The Lost Ten Tribes and Where You Might Fit In”

Dave mentions the possibility that God may call this special group to move overseas to Israel. 

“We also know that when He says that “all of Israel will be saved,” He means all of Israel, or remnants of all of Israel, in a more refined sense of the meaning. Since Yahweh has promised several times that He will lead “Israel” back to their inheritance, and Israel in this sense means all of Israel, then many of us have that free ticket to Israel that we all dreamed about.” “We May get To Stake Our Claim – Will The Lost Ten Tribes Be Heading Home Soon?”

Those who consider themselves to be of this Remnant Call group are taught by Dave and Jim that God has awakened them to a special knowledge that the rest of the church cannot know yet, or else these prophetic events would not come to pass. Thus it is implied to their students that the burden of fulfillment of prophecy is placed on the group members. 

“First I will tell you what not to do. Do not expect that you or anyone of us is going to “wake up” the church to these important end time understandings. It is just not going to happen yet. You must realize that you understand something that is unconditional and predestined. You know this before the majority of your fellow believers who are not even willing to hear about it. You must realize that they are not willing to hear about it because they have not been called to understand it yet. In order for some of these events to come to their completion, the majority of believers must be oblivious in understanding them. If tomorrow, the whole body of believers would suddenly have the knowledge some of us have about the role “Aliens and UFOs” have in this great deception, we could prevent it from ever happening.” “When, and certainly someday soon, the UFO Alien lies will become a public challenge to our faith, the church will be shook up and rocking on their foundations because of their lack of scriptural knowledge of these topics and events. This is where your ministry becomes a public one to reach out to your fellow believers in your local church.”

The Remnant Call group’s acceptance that they are of a special group who are predestined with important prophetic special knowledge, that the rest of the church is not predestined to know, is presented as the key to the fulfillment of prophecy. The group is told all attempts to warn the rest of the church at this time will fail, and the group is taught to believe they are on some sort of predestined path that they should not violate, else they go against God’s will for prophetic fulfillment. This could easily influence a person’s mind into a brainwashed state of false beliefs that gives over their free will, locked into a predestined path (guided by Jim and Dave, of course). It is implied God needs them to remain silent about these matters in their local church. The group is encouraged to keep their knowledge of Jim’s teachings to themselves, and not share these teachings with others in their local churches, save for one exception:

“Today as events are, this understanding is for two groups of people. One group is the few individuals who are drawn to you and ask questions and have insight to what you are saying.”… “Without exaggeration there are hundreds of thousands of people flocking to the New Age belief system. You have the truth so go and tell them in any way and manner that is scriptural and fruitful. This should remain your focus at this time.” Jim Wilhelmsen

The Remnant Call group is taught to share in the church only with “the few individuals who are drawn to you and ask questions and have insight to what you are saying”. They also can openly share with those who are in the New Age. As such people are encouraged to not talk about their views on alien/UFOs openly in their local church (such as what they are learning in the chatroom of Jim’s work) such as with their pastor or other mature Christians, but to instead lean on the chatroom (run by Dave and Jim) as the place to openly fellowship and discuss these topics. The problem inherent in this is that Jim and Dave’s teachings are that of the Serpent Seed heresy and that Salvation is by bloodline and not solely by Grace. 

So what are we really looking at here in these instructions? What would be the fruit of this? Dave and Jim would draw Christians into heretical teachings and false beliefs, that at their foundation contradict the Bible and violate essential Christian doctrines. Then these Christians are encouraged to not talk about these false beliefs openly in church, except privately on the side to those who are “drawn” to them. There is a demonic/evil spirit behind these heresies, and it seems most likely that those who would be “drawn” to those who would share with them these false beliefs, would be drawn not by God but by demonic forces. It is sad that the Christians in Remnant Call are discouraged from openly sharing with their local church what Dave and Jim are teaching them, heresies, because if they were to share these teachings openly, or with their pastor, they might receive help from their local church to help them see these are heretical false teachings. But the silent keep-it-on-the-down-low Dave and Jim instruct group members to do, is really more reminiscent of the cultic practice of infiltrating a church and developing a 5th column, ready to be sprung if any future cataclysmic events should unfold.  

This is quite the opposite of Biblical precedents for true prophecy, which teach that the Body of Christ should be warned by the prophets as to what is coming, as the goal is the benefit of the Church. Also the NT instructs that prophecy should be tested by other prophets, and that we should test the spirits. 

1Cr 14:29  “Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.”

1Jo 4:1 “Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.”

Rather instead, if their scenario were to carry through, Dave and Jim would become leaders of a 5th Column that would spring to life only after some major UFO/alien-related prophetic event took place, causing Remnant Call members and their leaders Dave and Jim to be placed in a position of power as those ‘in the know’, who shocked, panicked, confused Christians (not forewarned or fore-educated) would look to in a time of crises. The bad fruit of this scenario, if carried through, would be nothing less than usurping the position of pastors and Jesus Christ for guidance in this time, and instead looking to members of this 5th column for guidance on what was happening – potentially causing pastors to look inept to give guidance if they would not follow the lead of the 5th Column, splitting churches, generally causing disruption. There’s not much in here similar to the edifying role of biblical prophets in the NT church, who are second to apostles/elders/pastors and submit to their leadership – but rather the fruit here would likely result in challenging and usurping that leadership in a time of crisis, apostles/elders/pastors being pushed to lean on Remnant Call members (and thus Jim and Dave) for guidance. Have they done this and has this happened yet? No, not precisely, but I want to show what the most logical result would be if this was carried through on, if these vain imaginations were to come to pass, to show just how terrible, unbiblical, UnGodly, and bad of an idea this all is, the bad fruit it would result in. 

The second category of people that the Remnant Call group is encouraged to share with are those who are flocking to the New Age belief system. This is merely a continuation of what Jim and Dave are doing themselves. The Remnant Call chatroom is a place for abductees who came through PAAPSI to find fellowship and to receive teaching. Some abductees who contact PAAPSI are likely coming in from out of New Age / occult beliefs, some may be new Christians, or not Christians at all yet.  

“We do have a follow up with our chat room but hardly anything of a recovery program, it is more of a discipleship and fellowship program aimed at complete freedom from these entities and dependency on Jesus only.”

What do people, some of them recovering abductees, either nonChristians in the New Age or coming out of the New Age, learn about in the chatroom?

“Monday is an open “free for all” fellowship time to discuss whatever you want. Thursday we will discuss the prior weeks chosen topic of study. Each member will prayerfully research and study that topic and be ready to share their findings with everyone as a group. Dave and Jim will add and steer the discussion. This weeks topic is Zechariah 5 and the Roswell Crash and the Woman in the basket.” (Zech 5, woman in basket:

Those in the chatroom study what Jim teaches in his book and on his website. Jim has made youtube videos from his book, and sometimes these are played in the chatroom. Like this video which teaches that Adam and Eve did not have blood until they sinned, or this one on the descendents of Cain in the hollow earth and there are many more which teach Jim’s unbiblical heresies. These include a bloodless post-resurrection Jesus Christ, which may even qualify as an antichrist ‘not come in the flesh’ teaching – and that seems to be the spirit behind these teachings. (See for more on this.)

The chat room also has rule that these videos must be watched quietly without talking, attentively like one would listen to a sermon in church. If people do not comply with this rule they may be banned or bounced. 

“The rules are simple and easy to follow:… On teaching night the members will respect the teacher by listening to the talk and/or video that is being presented by the teacher. This means no typing or talking during the presentation. Act with respect like you would if you were in church …The chat-room is an arm of the ministry that Yahweh has given to the administrators…The Administrators reserve the right to bounce or ban any user who breaks any of these rules.”

In effect abductees who are either not Christian and just coming out of the New Age, or who are vulnerable Christians that have been under spiritual attacks, are made to find fellowship under this authoritarian system of indoctrination with false teachings and heresies. Abductees seeking help are to sit quietly and be indoctrinated with Jim and Dave’s heretical teachings. If they do not comply, they will be banned or bounced, and thus lose this ability to fellowship. This is all very authoritarian in nature. I have received numerous complaints about Dave and Jim over the years, and of people leaving this chatroom due to the not just authoritarian, but also harsh treatment some people have received in this chatroom. Some of the reports indicate the rules are not spelled out, and inconsistent, as banning/bouncing or harshness (even seeming retaliatory) seems to depend on whether one has developed favor with Jim and Dave, and whatever their whims are that day. Some quit the group… reporting Jim and Dave started declaring they were prophets, booting anyone out of the chat-room for disagreeing with them, and being harsh with those who disagreed with them who they let remain. I am not able to disclose these testimonies, but I give testimony that I have received them. If anyone would like to speak up, now is a good time. 

Some of what has been reported to me, and that I have seen, matches those behaviors described by destructive cult specialist Rick Ross in his article, 

“Warning Signs”

“Potentially unsafe groups or leaders “come off very nice at first, they go for vulnerable people who are looking for answers, lonely, what you’d call ‘normal people.’ They’re very good at what they do and can get people to believe anything. You might think you’d never get taken in, but don’t bet on it. ” — Margaret Singer, Ph.D.

By Rick Ross, Expert Consultant and Intervention Specialist

Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.

1. Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.

2. No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.

3. No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.

4. Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.

5. There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.

6. Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.

7. There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.

8. Followers feel they can never be “good enough”.

9. The group/leader is always right.

10. The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing “truth” or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.

Ten warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader.

1. Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.

2. Individual identity, the group, the leader and/or God as distinct and separate categories of existence become increasingly blurred. Instead, in the follower’s mind these identities become substantially and increasingly fused–as that person’s involvement with the group/leader continues and deepens.

3. Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as “persecution”.

4. Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.

5. Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.

6. Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests.

7. A dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humor.

8. Increasing isolation from family and old friends unless they demonstrate an interest in the group/leader.

9. Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.

10. Former followers are at best-considered negative or worse evil and under bad influences. They can not be trusted and personal contact is avoided.

Ten signs of a safe group/leader.

1. A safe group/leader will answer your questions without becoming judgmental and punitive.

2. A safe group/leader will disclose information such as finances and often offer an independently audited financial statement regarding budget and expenses. Safe groups and leaders will tell you more than you want to know.

3. A safe group/leader is often democratic, sharing decision making and encouraging accountability and oversight.

4. A safe group/leader may have disgruntled former followers, but will not vilify, excommunicate and forbid others from associating with them.

5. A safe group/leader will not have a paper trail of overwhelmingly negative records, books, articles and statements about them.

6. A safe group/leader will encourage family communication, community interaction and existing friendships and not feel threatened.

7. A safe group/leader will recognize reasonable boundaries and limitations when dealing with others.

8. A safe group/leader will encourage critical thinking, individual autonomy and feelings of self-esteem.

9. A safe group/leader will admit failings and mistakes and accept constructive criticism and advice.

10. A safe group/leader will not be the only source of knowledge and learning excluding everyone else, but value dialogue and the free exchange of ideas.

Don’t be naïve, develop a good BS Detector.

You can protect yourself from unsafe groups and leaders by developing a good BS detector. Check things out, know the facts and examine the evidence. A safe group will be patient with your decision making process. If a group or leader grows angry and anxious just because you want to make an informed and careful decision before joining; beware.” (Please also see the rest of his website for further helpful information on cults and cultic groups.)

How did this idea get started? The Remnant Call website and chatroom started with a dream Dave had about blue cows sitting in a church, and he and another man teaching them, then leading them out to a desert, near a body of water, to wait for some boats to carry the cattle away. Dave had this dream 08/06/08. This was only 3 days before 08/09/08 which was when Dave had a False Vision caused by a fallen angel, of the “Four Dimensional Bible and the Book of Life”. (For those who have not, please read Part 1 in this series for proof and further explanation.) So it has already been established that Dave was under deceptive demonic/fallen angelic attack at this time when he had this dream about the blue cows. 

“Early in the morning of August 06, 2008 I had a dream that had me confounded for the period of about a week. I prayed for the interpretation and asked Yahweh for a direct explanation of the dream or that He reveal the meaning through another person.  I shared the dream with a person that Yahweh directed me to share the dream with and then I waited.

“In the dream I was with another person. I believe that this person was a male. We were given a chore from Yeshua. The next thing I know we were in what looked like a very large church and there were blue cattle in the place. They were sitting like people sit and the place was crowded with them. The next thing I know we were in a desert-like field and as far as the eye could see there were blue cattle. I then got the impression that we and the cattle were in imminent danger and that we needed to get out of where we were. We were to move all of the cattle to safety. We walked through the wilderness until we got to a large body of water and we were waiting for some boats that someone had promised us. They were no boats really, but were ships, sort of like the Queen Mary. The ships never arrived and I started to get worried. It was then that I said that I wasn’t going to wait but instead that we would build boats, much like Noah’s Ark. It was then that I heard a voice tell me that we should not worry and that Yahweh would provide a way for us to get ourselves and all of the cattle out of danger’s way. I then woke up.

“After I shared this dream with my friend I ruminated about the dream for a couple of days and waited for an answer. I was not receiving anything from Yahweh about the dream. I had some strange thoughts but recognized them as being from my flesh or other sources. I contacted my friend after three or four days and asked him if he was given anything by Yeshua. He just told me to do an internet search on Blue Cattle and see what might come to me. I did the internet search and was surprised to find out that there really is a breed of cow called the blue cow. They are a hybrid species and they are special because they yield much more meat than a regular cow and that the meat is much leaner too. They yield more milk that normal breeds of cattle. This was a special kind of cow for sure. I then wondered what this meant in human terms. Is there a special people who are a royal cattle?
“It does however set us apart as a special tool to be used by Yahweh at a special time in history. We believe this time to be the last days of human reign upon the earth. Since the blue cattle were sitting in a church it means that we are believers for sure. The fact that the cattle were sitting like humans means that they were focused and paying attention to us as we were teaching them… The fact that the dream showed the cattle at a body of water waiting for a boat means that they will be moving to other lands for safety and of course, ministry.

“It can only be assumed that since the blue cattle were being taught by me and another man that they were here in the United States, since we are here. I have come to the conclusion that the other man is Jim Wilhelmsen since he has had similar dreams and that my dream was a confirmation for me and my dream a confirmation for him… One thing that is of a particular note is that these cattle (people) are special to Yahweh and they will impact the world in a powerful way. They are priests and kings in Yahweh’s Kingdom and they will go into the world with a powerful message that will bring people to Yeshua, but they will also be armed with the truth about the “strong delusion” and they will keep people from being deceived. You can read more on this site about who these people are. You might be one of them.”

Elements of the Remnant Call group can be seen to be ideas Dave received starting from this dream. Based on the bad fruit of the dream as outlined prior, and how it occurred within 3 days of Dave having a False Vision caused by a fallen angel, it seems likely this dream was demonic in nature. 

Take special note that Dave confirmed this dream with Jim, Dave and Jim had similar dreams, and Dave’s dream served as a confirmation for both him and Jim. This is indicative that they are both under the same spirit, the same evil spirit, if in fact this dream was demonic. Based on the bad fruit shown of the Remnant Call idea, both in an authoritarian indoctrinating the vulnerable with heresies in the chat group, and bad fruit potential if the Remnant call 5th Column plan was carried through on, it seems this dream likely was demonic. And so thus Dave and Jim’s similar dreams/confirmation to each other, indicates them both to be under the influence of the same dark spirit. 

Dave also states:

“The blue cattle represent the remnant of Yahweh’s people for our day.” “One thing that is of a particular note is that these cattle (people) are special to Yahweh and they will impact the world in a powerful way. They are priests and kings in Yahweh’s Kingdom and they will go into the world with a powerful message that will bring people to Yeshua, but they will also be armed with the truth about the “strong delusion” and they will keep people from being deceived. You can read more on this site about who these people are. You might be one of them.”

The rest of “this site”, Remnant Call, teaches these blue-cattle people are the 144,000 of the tribes of Israel from the book of Revelation. In fact the dream seems to be a confirmation to Dave and Jim of what they already were teaching about Christians being descendants of Jews from the lost 10 tribes of Israel. Again, this teaches salvation is by bloodline, and denies the Christian Doctrine of Salvation purely by Grace. 

To make my point, Dave had a dream about blue cows, and Somehow that turned into teaching Christians that they are of the bloodline of the lost 10 tribes of Israel, even that they are the 144,000 mentioned in the book of Revelation, and that perhaps they should move to Israel. While to date no one seems to have carried through on this, this is Precisely in line with how cult groups get started. If you simply imagine Jim and Dave had the funds to carry through on this, to actually lead their Remnant Call group to all move to Israel, claiming to be the 144,000 of the book of Revelation, then it becomes glaringly obvious how cultic this is. 

So, I present all this information to show that this is cultic, and this cultic idea and group Remnant Call:
1. started with a dream, which seems to have been demonic in origin, 
2. that the interpretation of the dream involved false theology (salvation by bloodline, not solely by grace), as seen in the teaching to group members on the Remnant Call website
3. that the fruit of the dream was ideas that are cultish in nature, such as special group effectively serving as a 5th column within the church
4. that these ideas would lead to an obvious cult group forming if carried on through to completion, the 144k going to Israel
5. that behavior matching that of spiritually abusive or cultic group leaders, has been reported by former members of the group
6. that group members are encouraged towards isolating behaviors, to not be open in their local fellowship, to not receive outside guidance from their local church or pastor
7. that group members are encouraged to share this false gospel of salvation by bloodlines (not solely by Grace) and other heretical teachings with New Agers; aka recruitment
In summary, while this joint venture is (or started as) just a little chat group, it has spread in the online community to include a few thousand interested parties (3,421 – # of Jim’s Youtube subscribers), and it has all the makings and bad fruit of being or becoming a ‘Christian cult’.  I would encourage anyone who has spent any amount of time under the influence of this clearly unbiblical heretical group, if you are not currently in church, to find fellowship with a local body of believers preaching the Word of God, a church that takes a staunch firm stance on the authority of scripture such as many churches with Baptist leanings or teaching the Word of God incrementally and expository manner such as Calvary Chapels do. I would encourage anyone already in a local fellowship to submit for review these teachings about salvation by bloodlines, not solely by Grace, and the idea of being one of the 144,000 in the book of Revelation (and other strange teachings by Jim, such as a bloodless Adam and Eve or bloodless Jesus, Serpent’s Seed, etc), to more mature Christians in your local fellowship, such as your pastor(s), with a heart willing or open to receiving biblical truth, help, and instruction from them. While I find it highly improbable that such could or would be the case, if your local pastor is in agreement with Jim or Dave’s afore-referenced heretical teachings, then I would recommend leaving asap and finding a new local church. 

I would also encourage anyone who has spent any amount of time under the influence of this clearly unbiblical heretical group to go through the deliverance and spiritual warfare prayer process outlined here: doing this with the goal in mind to get free of any spiritual strongholds and/or occult, cultic, demonic, false prophetic, or familiar evil spirit that you may have picked up from being involved with Remnant Call.


Dave and Jim, 

Don’t think I’m doing this cause I hate you, cause I don’t hate you, rather I have love for you as brothers in Christ – but you are Deceived and have been – and worse, you can harm others and also draw them into being caught up in this evil spirit. It’s not about me and you, and it can’t just be about me and you – because I can’t just love you or just think only of you, I have to love other brothers and sisters in Christ and think of them too, that could get deceived also, or have been deceived. I have to love them also, which means warning them to not get caught up in this, or to get out of being caught up in it if they already are. I encourage you to go through the prayer process linked above also, and seek deliverance help from other Christians outside of your sphere of influence or involvement.

Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].


-Paradox Brown

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